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Elizabeth Morton's avatar

I am not surprised at this level of analysis from you Den. An approach to optimise and invest to manage usage and money for energy.

Our approach has been somewhat haphazard, but we are getting there. Living in a tired, draughty, single glazed old Victorian vicarage (bought Summer 2021) has presented some rather big issues with heating and heat retention. First we got rid go the old 1970's concrete mounted boiler that seemed to clunk and whir and deliver not very much that to single skinned similarly aged radiators.

Then, we replaced said radiators and underwent a programme of work this year replacing sash windows with double glazed units and re-glaxing with double glazed units the non-sash windows. 6 more to go when the budget permits. And we double glazed the glass units in the front door and sealed the edges (I kid you not, leaves used to blow under the gap and every morning I had to sweep the hall free of them.)

Back to the heating, our plumber offered us a pretty high tech solution, similar to that Darren describes - we can upgrade to that, its on option, but at the moment we are just trying to get a grip on what each room is like and where our main living areas are (This winter in the new kitchen and for TV, in the recently refurbished sitting room - which has a very very efficient log burner).

We notice that we actually don't need the whole house heating all the time, just the main rooms we use, so we have turned down the radiator thermostats in the rooms we don't use, and we have set the boiler to ping in at 16 degrees (agree with you, heating the big rooms from a mug lower temperature will be a massive job!)

Whilst I haven't gone to the same level of analysis (yet) we have noticed that our gas usage - we are on LPG from a large tank, is much less than this time last year, where we predicted at that time our energy bills would likely be quadruple the price we paid at our last house. So far so good, we are not anywhere near that (yet!!) even with the energy price hikes, but we are probably around double, but bigger house, less double glazing (work in progress) and us working out how the house works best - and we are hoping to cut a bit more £££ as we do more insulation work.

Taking your tips on batch cooking, heating only rooms you use, wrapping up, and we are thinking of hot water bottles for bedtime will surely reduce the energy spend chez Morton. We know we have more to do, and we need to get to a level of analysis on usage, and we will, soon.

Anyway - for now it's quite fun running down the minton tiled hall floor to the cold'ish downstairs loo and back again to the warmth of the sitting room log burner. Much like old times as a child in the 70's when we had the 3 day weeks!

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Darren Hague's avatar

We've been doing similar at our place. Luckily we replaced our boiler a few years ago with one that can modulate it's heat output (instead of just on/off) and fitted a Honeywell EvoHome controller which demands only the heat necessary, keeping the boiler in condensing mode.

Last month we added EvoHome valves to most of the rads, so now each rad can independently call for heat and each room is on it's own schedule. This means I can keep my home office warm during working days while the rest of the house is cooler, the living room heats up only in the evenings and the bedroom warms up just before bedtime each night - all set & forget. I have also been playing with boiler flow temperatures to eek out the best efficiency from the boiler, trying to keep the return temperatures as low as possible while still providing enough heat to warm the house. Me being me, this involved a homebrew setup of temperature sensors on the boiler being read by a microcontroller. This data is sent to a Raspberry Pi where it gets stored in a time-series database from which I can view current and historical data via a Grafana dashboard. That's complete overkill, of course, but was a fun side-project :-)

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